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Syd Thrift

Feb 25, 1929 (Middlesex County, VA) – Sep 18, 2006 (Milford, DE) · died at 77

General manager for the Pirates and Orioles (1986–2002).

Across the full 6-season sample, the measured profile stands out most for future-foundation returns (100th percentile), and net WAR per trade (97th percentile). The clearest contrast is payroll-adjusted winning (12th percentile): the measured clubs have produced fewer wins relative to payroll-based expectations than most peers.

6 seasons with salary-era data across 2 stints. All figures are franchise-level outcomes during the tenure, not solely attributable to one executive.

0 pennants · 0 playoff appearances · 433–536 (0.447)

Percentile Rankings

vs. execs with toyrs exp.
PoorAverageGreat
Trade Decision Quality
Roster Construction
Depth
6.0
Dead WAR
-4.7
Dead money %
37%
PoorAverageGreat
Talent Creation
Cheap-talent surplus
$7M
Drafted surplus
$1M
Traded-for surplus
$5M
Int'l surplus
$1M
Results & Efficiency
GM WAR
-0.1
TAB
-9.5
WAB
-37.1
$ / WAR
$1.0M
Net WAR/trade
+2.59

Overview

TeamRoleYear Pay
$M
Rel
Pay
Surp
$M
Surp
WAR
Dead
%
Cheap
$M
Draft
$M
Trd
$M
Int'l
$M
$ /
WAR
WAR Depth Dead
WAR
HG Trade Net/
Trd
FA R5 RFA PPA CPA WAB TAB W-L% POPenWS
Pirates GM 1986 64–98 $8 72 +1 +4.4 40% +2 +0 +2 -0 $0.2M 30.8 7.0 -3.9 +13.6 +35.3 +5.89 -0.4 +0.0 1.09 0.14 -13.7 +0.5 0.395
Pirates GM 1987 80–82 $6 56 +5 +16.0 22% +5 +1 +3 +1 $0.1M 39.5 8.0 -2.9 +2.2 +33.0 +4.72 +0.6 +0.0 1.83 0.16 +5.4 +12.2 0.494
Pirates GM 1988 85–75 $6 54 +5 +17.0 39% +6 +2 +2 +2 $0.2M 37.3 9.0 -2.7 +7.8 -18.8 -2.09 -2.1 +0.1 3.83 0.26 +11.8 +10.9 0.531
Orioles GM 2000 74–88 $76 140 -37 -26.1 31% +2 +1 -0 +2 $2.2M 27.3 6.0 -7.5 +0.3 +30.2 +5.03 -29.9 +4.0 +1.80 0.69 0.11 -12.2 -11.0 0.457
Orioles GM 2001 63–98 $53 86 -21 -13.2 49% +11 -1 +11 +1 $2.1M 19.2 2.0 -6.5 +5.7 +0.5 +0.25 +10.5 +0.0 +0.15 0.05 0.03 -16.5 -13.0 0.391
Orioles GM 2002 67–95 $52 79 -13 -7.4 40% +17 +1 +15 +0 $1.9M 22.2 4.0 -4.8 -0.1 +2.4 +1.22 -6.7 +0.0 +0.01 0.06 0.03 -11.9 -9.2 0.414
Career total (1985+ data) $202 81 -60 -9.3 37% +7 +1 +5 +1 $1.0M 176.3 6.0 -4.7 +29.4 +82.7 +2.59 -28.1 +4.1 +1.39 1.07 0.11 -37.1 -9.5 0.447

Roster Construction

How the roster was sourced

Share of acquired fWAR by channel vs. league average.

Build channels — net fWAR

Acquired minus surrendered / signed minus walked.

Home-grown (draft/intl)+29.4
Trade+82.7
Free agency-28.1
Rule 5 / minor draft+4.1
Sourcing mix: 17% draft · 11% FA · 70% trade · 2% R5

Trades

Trades made — 30 deals credited to Syd Thrift, best expected value first; surplus is realized value in $M

1987 · PIT / STL
PIT · Syd Thrift +$392.8M
Andy Van Slyke, Mike LaValliere, Mike Dunne
STL · Dal Maxvill −$392.8M
Tony Peña
PIT came out ahead by $392.8M
2002 · BAL / CHW
BAL · Syd Thrift +$12.0M
Chris Singleton
CHW · Kenny Williams −$12.0M
Willie Harris
BAL came out ahead by $12.0M
2000 · BAL / STL
BAL · Syd Thrift +$36.8M
Chris Richard, Mark Nussbeck
STL · Walt Jocketty −$36.8M
Mike Timlin
BAL came out ahead by $36.8M
1987 · PIT / DET
PIT · Syd Thrift +$4.0M
Darnell Coles, Morris Madden
DET · Bill Lajoie −$4.0M
Jim Morrison
PIT came out ahead by $4.0M
1987 · SFG / PIT
SFG · Al Rosen +$58.4M
Rick Reuschel
PIT · Syd Thrift −$58.4M
Jeff Robinson, Scott Medvin
SFG came out ahead by $58.4M
2002 · BAL / NYM
BAL · Syd Thrift +$16.0M
Gary Matthews
NYM · Steve Phillips −$16.0M
John Bale
BAL came out ahead by $16.0M
2001 · BAL / LAD
BAL · Syd Thrift +$6.4M
Gerónimo Gil, Kris Foster
LAD · Dave Wallace −$6.4M
Mike Trombley
BAL came out ahead by $6.4M
1987 · PIT / CHW
PIT · Syd Thrift +$13.6M
John Cangelosi
CHW · Larry Himes −$13.6M
Jim Winn
PIT came out ahead by $13.6M
2000 · STL / BAL
STL · Walt Jocketty +$3.2M
Will Clark
BAL · Syd Thrift −$3.2M
José León
STL came out ahead by $3.2M
2000 · BAL / WSN
BAL · Syd Thrift +$1.6M
Jorge Julio
WSN · Jim Beattie −$1.6M
Ryan Minor
BAL came out ahead by $1.6M
2000 · BAL / ATL
BAL · Syd Thrift +$26.4M
Trenidad Hubbard, Fernando Lunar, Luis Rivera
ATL · John Schuerholz −$26.4M
Gabe Molina, B. J. Surhoff
BAL came out ahead by $26.4M
2000 · BAL / CHW
BAL · Syd Thrift +$0.8M
Miguel Felix, Juan Figueroa, Brook Fordyce, Jason Lakman
CHW · Ron Schueler −$0.8M
Harold Baines, Charles Johnson
BAL came out ahead by $0.8M
2000 · NYM / BAL
NYM · Steve Phillips +$0.0M
Juan Aracena
BAL · Syd Thrift +$0.0M
Anthony Shumaker
Even trade
1986 · PIT / SEA
PIT · Syd Thrift +$5.6M
Bob Siegel
SEA · Dick Balderson −$5.6M
Rich Renteria
PIT came out ahead by $5.6M
1986 · PIT / ANA
PIT · Syd Thrift +$0.0M
Kevin Davis
ANA · Mike Port +$0.0M
Chris Green
Even trade
1987 · BAL / PIT
BAL · Hank Peters +$34.4M
Joe Orsulak
PIT · Syd Thrift −$34.4M
Terry Crowley, Rico Rossy
BAL came out ahead by $34.4M
1986 · TEX / PIT
TEX · Tom Grieve +$5.6M
Jeff Zaske
PIT · Syd Thrift −$5.6M
Randy Kramer
TEX came out ahead by $5.6M
1986 · PIT / SDP
PIT · Syd Thrift +$12.8M
Bob Patterson
SDP · Jack McKeon −$12.8M
Marvell Wynne
PIT came out ahead by $12.8M
2000 · BAL / ATL
BAL · Syd Thrift +$5.6M
Steve Sisco
ATL · John Schuerholz −$5.6M
Jesse Garcia
BAL came out ahead by $5.6M
1986 · PIT / WSN
PIT · Syd Thrift +$16.0M
Ben Abner, Ronnie Giddens
WSN · Murray Cook −$16.0M
Jason Thompson
PIT came out ahead by $16.0M
1987 · PIT / NYM
PIT · Syd Thrift +$5.6M
Al Pedrique, Scott Little
NYM · Frank Cashen −$5.6M
Bill Almon
PIT came out ahead by $5.6M
1987 · SFG / PIT
SFG · Al Rosen +$16.0M
Don Robinson
PIT · Syd Thrift −$16.0M
Mackey Sasser
SFG came out ahead by $16.0M
2001 · PHI / BAL
PHI · Ed Wade +$3.2M
John Wasdin
BAL · Syd Thrift −$3.2M
Chris Brock
PHI came out ahead by $3.2M
1987 · DET / PIT
DET · Bill Lajoie +$5.6M
Shawn Holman, Pete Rice
PIT · Syd Thrift −$5.6M
Terry Harper
DET came out ahead by $5.6M
2000 · TOR / BAL
TOR · Gord Ash +$0.8M
Jayson Werth
BAL · Syd Thrift −$0.8M
John Bale
TOR came out ahead by $0.8M
2000 · BAL / NYM
BAL · Syd Thrift +$280.0M
Leslie Brea, Pat Gorman, Mike Kinkade, Melvin Mora
NYM · Steve Phillips −$280.0M
Mike Bordick
BAL came out ahead by $280.0M
2000 · LAD / BAL
LAD · Kevin Malone +$21.6M
Alberto Reyes
BAL · Syd Thrift −$21.6M
Alan Mills
LAD came out ahead by $21.6M
1986 · PIT / CHW
PIT · Syd Thrift +$184.0M
Bobby Bonilla
CHW · Ken Harrelson −$184.0M
José DeLeón
PIT came out ahead by $184.0M
1987 · PIT / ANA
PIT · Syd Thrift +$16.8M
Bill Merrifield, Miguel García
ANA · Mike Port −$16.8M
Johnny Ray
PIT came out ahead by $16.8M
1986 · PIT / NYY
PIT · Syd Thrift +$276.8M
Doug Drabek, Brian Fisher, Logan Easley
NYY · Clyde King −$276.8M
Rick Rhoden, Cecilio Guante, Pat Clements
PIT came out ahead by $276.8M

Players acquired — 92 players, by realized fWAR for the franchise (scroll for more)

PlayerPosTeam How Year Szns fWAR WAR/yr RFA PPA CPA
Andy Van Slyke OF PIT Trade 1987 8 +31.1 +3.9 8.5% 0.79%
Melvin Mora 3B BAL Trade 2000 10 +26.9 +2.7 +3.25 0.4% 0.06%
Doug Drabek P PIT Trade 1986 6 +21.4 +3.6 4.8% 0.42%
Bobby Bonilla 3B/OF PIT Trade 1986 5 +20.6 +4.1
Jeff King 1B/3B PIT Draft 1986 8 +12.0 +1.5
Mike LaValliere C PIT Trade 1987 6 +11.1 +1.9 6.0% 0.53%
Rodrigo López P BAL Free agency 2001 5 +10.5 +2.1 0.2% 0.10%
Randy Tomlin P PIT Draft 1988 5 +9.0 +1.8
Jim Johnson P BAL Draft 2001 7 +5.1 +0.7
Gary Redus OF PIT Trade 1988 5 +4.8 +1.0 1.6% 0.11%
Buddy Groom P BAL Trade 2000 4 +4.7 +1.2 0.8% 0.12%
Jay Gibbons OF BAL Rule 5 2000 4 +4.0 +1.0
John Cangelosi OF PIT Trade 1987 3 +3.2 +1.1 3.7% 0.32%
Jeff Robinson P PIT Trade 1987 3 +3.2 +1.1 1.7% 0.14%
Glenn Wilson OF PIT Trade 1988 2 +3.0 +1.5 0.5% 0.03%
Bob Patterson P PIT Trade 1986 5 +2.9 +0.6 1.2% 0.16%
Gary Matthews OF BAL Trade 2002 1 +2.8 +2.8 +0.01 0.2% 0.11%
Tony Batista 3B BAL Trade 2001 2 +2.5 +1.3 0.1% 0.06%
Pat Rapp P BAL Free agency 2000 1 +2.2 +2.2 1.5% 0.24%
Jim Gott P PIT Trade 1987 3 +2.2 +0.7 2.7% 0.23%
Mike Dunne P PIT Trade 1987 1 +1.9 +1.9
Carlos García 2B PIT Intl FA 1987 5 +1.9 +0.4
Pat Hentgen P BAL Free agency 2000 2 +1.7 +0.9 0.0% 0.03%
Chris Singleton OF BAL Trade 2002 1 +1.7 +1.7 +0.02 0.1% 0.06%
Adam Loewen P BAL Draft 2002 2 +1.6 +0.8
Chris Richard 1B/OF BAL Trade 2000 2 +1.5 +0.7 +2.07
Willis Roberts P BAL Free agency 2000 2 +1.4 +0.7 0.1% 0.04%
Brian Fisher P PIT Trade 1987 2 +1.4 +0.7 3.0% 0.25%
Rick Reed P PIT Draft 1986 4 +1.3 +0.3
Eric DuBose P BAL Trade 2002 2 +0.9 +0.4
Blas Minor P PIT Draft 1988 2 +0.9 +0.5
Tim Wakefield P PIT Draft 1988 1 +0.8 +0.8
Chris Britton P BAL Draft 2001 1 +0.7 +0.7
Marty Cordova OF BAL Free agency 2001 2 +0.7 +0.4 0.0% 0.02%
Deivi Cruz SS BAL Free agency 2002 1 +0.7 +0.7 0.2% 0.06%
Gerónimo Gil C BAL Trade 2001 4 +0.7 +0.2 +0.15
John Wasdin P BAL Trade 2001 1 +0.7 +0.7 0.0% 0.02%
Travis Driskill P BAL Trade 2002 2 +0.6 +0.3
Jorge Julio P BAL Trade 2000 3 +0.6 +0.2 +1.05
Brook Fordyce C BAL Trade 2000 2 +0.5 +0.3 +3.19 0.7% 0.11%
Dave LaPoint P PIT Trade 1988 1 +0.5 +0.5 1.8% 0.12%
Fernando Lunar C BAL Trade 2000 2 +0.4 +0.2 +2.11 0.0% 0.01%
Vicente Palacios P PIT Draft 1987 3 +0.4 +0.1
Darnell Coles 3B/OF PIT Trade 1987 2 +0.4 +0.2 0.1% 0.01%
Kurt Birkins P BAL Draft 2000 1 +0.3 +0.3
Randy Milligan 1B PIT Trade 1988 1 +0.3 +0.3 1.3% 0.09%
Stan Belinda P PIT Draft 1986 3 +0.2 +0.1
Greg Myers C BAL Trade 2001 1 +0.2 +0.2 0.0% 0.01%
John Bale P BAL Trade 2000 1 +0.1 +0.1 -1.23 0.0% 0.00%
Willie Morales C BAL Trade 2000 1 +0.1 +0.1
Jeff Banister PH/PR PIT Draft 1986 1 +0.1 +0.1
Houston Jiménez SS PIT Draft 1987 1 +0.1 +0.1
Scott Little OF PIT Trade 1987 1 +0.1 +0.1
Scott Medvin P PIT Trade 1987 1 +0.1 +0.1
Paul Miller P PIT Draft 1987 2 +0.1 +0.0
Tim Raines OF BAL Trade 2001 1 +0.1 +0.1 0.0% 0.00%
Mike Trombley P BAL Trade 2001 1 +0.1 +0.1 0.0% 0.02%
Mike Kinkade OF BAL Trade 2000 1 +0.1 +0.1 +3.25 0.1% 0.01%
Kris Foster P BAL Trade 2001 -0.0 +0.15
Luis García OF BAL Trade 2002 -0.0
Val Majewski DH/OF BAL Draft 2002 -0.0
Izzy Molina C BAL Free agency 2001 1 +0.0 +0.0 0.0% 0.00%
Yorkis Pérez P BAL Free agency 2002 1 +0.0 +0.0 0.0% 0.00%
Eli Whiteside C BAL Draft 2001 -0.0
Onix Concepción SS PIT Free agency 1987 1 +0.0 +0.0 0.1% 0.01%
Butch Davis OF PIT Trade 1987 -0.0
Dave Hostetler 1B/DH PIT Trade 1988 -0.0
Dave Rucker P PIT Free agency 1988 1 +0.0 +0.0 0.2% 0.01%
Chuck McElroy P BAL Trade 2000 1 +0.0 +0.0 +0.00 0.3% 0.05%
Terry Harper OF PIT Trade 1987 1 +0.0 +0.0 0.0% 0.00%
Chris Brock P BAL Trade 2001 -0.1
Ben Shelton 1B/OF PIT Draft 1987 -0.1
Darwin Cubillán P BAL Free agency 2002 -0.2
Steve Carter OF PIT Draft 1987 1 -0.2 -0.2
Orestes Destrade 1B PIT Trade 1988 -0.2
Miguel García P PIT Trade 1987 1 -0.2 -0.2
Mark Ross P PIT Free agency 1986 -0.2
U. L. Washington SS PIT Free agency 1986 1 -0.2 -0.2 0.1% 0.00%
Leslie Brea P BAL Trade 2000 -0.4 +3.25
John Maine P BAL Draft 2002 -0.4
Ryan McGuire 1B/OF BAL Free agency 2001 -0.4
Al Pedrique SS PIT Trade 1987 1 -0.4 -0.4
Randy Kramer P PIT Trade 1986 1 -0.5 -0.5
Will Pennyfeather OF PIT Intl FA 1988 -0.5
Hayden Penn P BAL Draft 2002 1 -0.6 -0.6
Hipólito Peña P PIT Trade 1986 -0.6
Logan Easley P PIT Trade 1986 -0.7
Brandon Fahey SS/OF BAL Draft 2002 1 -0.8 -0.8
Scott Bullett OF PIT Intl FA 1988 -0.9
José León 1B/3B BAL Trade 2000 -1.0 +1.05
Luis López 2B/SS BAL Free agency 2002 -1.1
John Wehner 3B/OF PIT Draft 1988 3 -1.5 -0.5

Trade-side columns: RFA is playoff-readiness percentage points added to the future roster foundation. It grades the franchise's entire side of a trade, so the same score repeats for every player acquired in that package. PPA/CPA remain player-level arrival-year probability points.

WAB = wins above what the team's payroll predicted (resource-controlled). WAR surplus = era-neutral value (WAR minus payroll in win-equivalents). Roster surplus $M = dollar value of WAR over cost. Build channels (realized fWAR): HG = home-grown via amateur draft / international signing; Trade = acquired minus surrendered (incl. purchases/waivers); FA = signed minus walked; R5 = Rule-5 / minor-league-draft pickups. Credit follows the acquisition year — home-grown to the regime at the player's draft/signing (not whoever was in the chair when he peaked), trade/FA/R5 to the GM who made the move. Players acquired as prospects before debuting (e.g. Smoltz, Bagwell; Rule-5 picks like Uggla) are counted as trade/R5, not home-grown. All are franchise-level outcomes during the stint, not solely attributable to one executive.

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